Are we still evolving? I fail to see it; yes I know evolution can be a very long, slow process with minute changes occasionally. Still, aside from less body hair, we still are pretty much the same as the ancients. So are we still evolving? Into what? What do you see for humans for the far future?
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If you sit around a bit longer you may notice that the hour hand on the clock has moved.
Sit around for a few days and you will see the grass grow.
Sit around for say, 5 million years and you will have noticed an appreciable difference in humans.
In our current form, we have been around only a million years and we still need to devolve many redundant features such as unused organs; appendix, gall bladder etc. And our spine will take another couple of million years to adapt to primates.
In about 100 million years time it is predicted that the human body may adapt to eating large quantities of garlic without getting poisoned. But then that feature will probably not be needed since stu-pid-ity, mysticism, and spiritualism will probably have all been evolved out of humans by then.
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I see no reason to limit evolutionary considerations purely to what is inside our bodies. Sure, our cardiovascular system has not changed significantly over the past 2,000 years. What is more impactful on our life though: the fine details of how that system works, or, say, introduction of the Internet? "Evolution" is simply a process of changes in the species' life; it does not have to necessarily involve direct biological alterations. Humans have gone further over the past 6,000 years than they had over the previous 5 million in terms of how they live, even though biologically the changes have been significantly less noticeable.
We are at the dawn of a cardinal change in how everything in human life works: we are about to start incorporating direct collective intelligence (natural language machine learning models) in all areas of our life. What this will do to the life and the function of the average human organism is hard to predict; suffice to say that a human 50 years from now will have very little in common with a human even today, let alone 2,000 years ago, let alone 200,000 years ago. If anything, evolution today is happening on a much shorter time scale than before.
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Humans are only trying to keep up with technology and unless technology stagnates for a few hundred years, there will be no actual evolutionary changes ib our brains @MayCaesar.
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I do not know what it means for a society to keep up with the changes, but as an individual human being, I cannot say that I am having any difficulties adopting the novelties. And even if I did, they would still influence my life and change who and what I fundamentally am. The fact that someone does not understand all the details of how artificial intelligence works and never trains neural network models himself does not shield him from all the ways other people using artificial intelligence change the world around him - and change him as a consequence.
As for being "smarter", from this perspective, humans certainly are. If smartness is to be measured in terms of what insights a human can come up with using all the available tools at his disposal, then the average elementary school student today can be far smarter than Einstein was 100 years ago. The fact that a lot of this smartness is outsourced outside the human body hardly changes anything.
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Many experts in their fields have claimed that the human brain has evolved way past its ability to keep us thriving and you only need to look at the advancements in AI to realise that in future times, complex calculations and decision-making will no longer be needed for humans to survive. Many psychologists assert that we are "too smart" for our own good and with a reduced brain size, we can still enjoy life without having to "overthink" our day to day travails and ponderances.
So, yes I may be wrong with my observance above and I certainly did not intend any insult. For example, it could be that the appendix may in fact start to re-evolve and there will be a noticeable "hump" on the abdomens of the next race of human beings. This would coincide with the significant loss in intellectual capacity of humans and the side-effects such as lack of reasoning and sanity resulting in consuming copious quantities of garlic. So, the enlarged appendix would be able to reasonably break-down the dangerous levels of disulphide toxins produced by the breakdown of a very unstable compound known as allicin.
But that is just one random example of how evolution can sometimes go backwards in order to march forwards.
Let's look at say, as a random example, the vesicular monoamine transporter 2 gene which scientists have attributed to those having the gene to succumb to delusional illnesses; hence the nickname, "the God gene". With reduced ability to think too much about everyday phenomena, such an undesirable trait would gradually mutate out of the gene pool altogether.
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Human brain always works actively; the question is merely what it works on. In the past, when even something as simple as storing food for a few hours involved a lot of deliberate actions, the brain was preoccupied with such mundane tasks; nowadays such tasks are mostly automated and human brains focus on more intricate things. Our current conversation involving very complicated concepts by the average peasant from the 14th-century Europe's standards would not be possible at that time: you would most likely be plugging the fields right now, and your mind would be preoccupied with such thoughts as, "I am tired", "I am hungry", "F this life", and "I hope our next child does not die".
Whether you learn or not does not change; what changes is what you learn. Would you rather learn how to manually compute something that your computer can do in a nanosecond, or how to utilize your computer's high-level operations to be more productive than a million people working together 200 years ago were?
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You are probably right there if that is how we develop as a purely biological species.
I think that, given the rapid development of technology and in particular, AI we may get to the stage whereby beings will be purely electro-mechanical. Before that, I have no doubt that we will be hybrid beings.
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In addition, I would argue that human learning process is unreliable and error-prone: many people "learn" something which is false and then operate with the assumption that it is true, resulting in eventual crisis. Computers are much more efficient and accurate at learning from observed data, and I would certainly trust an advanced AI's judgement over the collective intelligence of billions of mammals.
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That is a very big "if". If the crash is impossible, then the question is fairly irrelevant. In principle, a similar crash could have happened at any point in time: imagine if, for instance, 50 years ago the global electric grid permanently went down... The technology has the self-perpetuating property: the more technologically advanced the society is, the more tools they can build to maintain all this technology.
Regarding people's inability to count, there is something to be said about it, but I do not see how it changes anything with respect to our topic. If the college student in question was able to complete the transaction accurately, even if she had to use a calculator for it, then she performed the exact same business transaction as someone could who did not need to use a calculator. And the more developed technology becomes, the more seamless such operations will become. You can imagine the near future in which you will not even need to perform this transaction explicitly: you come, eat and leave, and all the math is done somewhere in the background outside of your awareness.
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Oh, I do not think that in a million years there will be "humans" as such. I would expect our organisms to change so much within the next few centuries that whatever creatures will roam Earth (and other planets or space stations) would be completely unrecognizable to us were we to encounter them today. From cybernetics augmenting all parts of our bodies, to virtually all functions of the brain digitized and put in a decentralized network... There will be not much of us left.
In the alternative reality where the technological progress halted at the current stage and humans were to live in this environment forever, I would guess that our muscles would atrophy and our ability to multitask grow significantly. How exactly it would manifest biology-wise is everybody's guess.
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And we all have to be ware that God does these things to test us and sometimes he doesn't and in that case you have to wonder if it is the work of Satan that he creates another race of humans. So we must never loose site of what God told us that man must take domain over the world and use what he has given us. We saw it in the Bible when it happened a long time ago and the scriptures dont make it to clear weather or not it was God or Satan who put those monsters on earth for man to vanquish but man did vanquish them in the end so we have to make sure we vanquish another race if it happens again.
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Well excuse me for being a monkeys bottom but it is about evolution and you evevn wrote it like derr where did your alien rocket crash last night.
And because God is the one creator of all things it is right to say that God created evolution. He sowed the seeds which it says so many times in the Bible and thats how we know that he created evolution.
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Well I studied remidal English and you put a colon in front of evolution so thats the subject but then what is happening is that the subject is evolving so thats cool. So what your got to under stand is that evolution is evolving so its hard to know for sure. For example chickens dont have much sents right because they have a pee brain. There was a chicken once called Mike who had his head chopped off and he lived because the pee brain is under the head. And he only died a couple of years later because he chocked on some food. So we can see that chickens are getting smarter because there used to getting there heads chopped off so then the ones with there brains under there head lived and got to breed again so thats how they evolved like that.
So you fast forward to nower days and where I work we knock off thousands of chickens but if we chop there heads off we know that they will run a round and we would never catch them. One day a chicken escaped and hid under the conveyer belt but it got jammed and the inspectors came and we had to close the plant down for 2 days because it was smelling. We lost pay because of that and it turned out to be a black chicken which is why no body saw it so thats why we dont take in blacks any more. So guess what you dont see many blacks now because the farmers have to evolve them out because they cant sell them.
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Theres no confuscion at all about selective breeding and in fact it is part of evolution. There are heaps of animals that were hunted out of instinction so not only does that pull the animal out of process but other animals in the food chain have to adapt so they start evolving in a different direction than they would of. A lot of people dont see that but when you stop to analize it it all makes total sents in the end and like you said newclear wars could effect evolution also. So look at chickens. they are all evolving to be white because the black ones are useless so there wont be any black genes at all in a 1000 years time. Thats evolution all right so your just got to get smarter then youll realize what I mean.
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Yes it does and I gave you the proof. And you said your self The key point of evolution is survival of the species. And the key point of chickens growing there brains in there neck is for survival because the ones with there brains lower down run off and live and bread so thats evolution.
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I did do that and it was 2 years and scientists didn't put the brain there because it evolved that way any way so like derrr. So I think your getting in to your spazo ways again when you say other people are like your really wired ways. But basically I reckon you get stuck on all this natural stuff like all that garlic boloney you kept on going about. Your got to accept that things that are not natural are apart of this world and even if you dont like it your got to live with it.
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So not only were you wrong about the headless chichen you were wrong about it being posted. Do you like being wrong and p ing people off or some thing for some reason
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Well what you believe and whats realty are 2 completely different things because the fact is that it doesn't matter how things change they are part of evolution> I reckon that your got to let go of all this natural baloney because it effects what you think like evolution is got to be natural so any thing thats not natural isn't a part of evolution. It doesn't make sents does it just like all your natural cures dont make sents. Believing some thing and wanting things to be what you think they should are not realty. Now the thing is that you got done in good and proper twice over about the head less chicken but now your finding different excuses so that when I answer that dum excuse and give evidence youll find another dum excuse. So the point is that I am pointing out is that once your lost especially when you lost twice on the same thing you cant just keep trying to win by making up totally spazo arguments about the same thing. Once your lost your lost and you should except that with honor.
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Thats not an argument. You just cant say that the sky is not blue period. I gave the evidence and tripped you up so bad and now your in denile.
No because SB is not evolution it is part of it and changing from one species to another does not happen and would not prove any thing any way. And if you had a brain bigger than half of the brain of an ameba on the spectrum you would actually read about evolution instead of asking 1st grade questions. Most evolution is parallel because some of one animal wander off and grow differently because the environment is different and then some of those wander off and become differenter and so on but all the other animals stay the same in there environments but when you look at the animal in the environment a million times along the pathway a hundred thousand years later it is a dog and the first one is still a chicken and the hundredth one is still a chicken with hairy airs and so on. So you see we all came from a carrot billions of years a go but we still have carrots so one thing does not turn into another like your trying to make out just to try and win an argument that you lost real big time.
Now next dum question please but you must sit up strait and cross your legs and button your lips and actually listen. Or do what other people do and actually read some descent stuff about evolution not the 1st grade dog mess that says actually nothing that you just posted. Thats real stu pid wishy washy stuff if ever there was.
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Your arguments are worth zilch because you just cant say some things wrong and thats it. I gave you evidence and you didn't. And you know very well that this is the subject. How much of a dim wit do you want to show off to be and how many more times are you going to go round in circles saying the same thing over and over.
I know any way that you like playing dum games like that any way because no human being could ever be alive if they were really that dum any way.
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Well I reckon that we will still have evolution in the future because thats what its all about. But it will proberly be different because you will get a lot of SB going on in evolution and a lot of AI to. For example we wont have chickens any more because all humans will be AI and all they need is energy from the sun to eat and the same with plants to because there wont be any animal needing to eat carrots and leaves for example. So there wont be any more bio things left and AI humans wont die per say. You just get a new brain from the brain shop and they just download all your memory into the new brain chip from the cloud in space. And wait for this you wont need any more cars or air plains because what you do is you keep another AI body at your girl friends place and when you want to visit her you just zap your brain over into that AI body in an instant. And your wife proberly thinks that your fallen asleep in front of the TV. So where the SB comes in to it is that Ais and bots cant evolve per say so what they do is plan a head and select what kind of bots and AIs will look like in the future so that the AIs and bots will proberly evolve id a different way and they wont call it evolution any more because it will be SB.
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